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Anyone ever been cured and why not?
SilverFox
Posted: Sunday, February 19, 2012 5:10:47 PM
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Well, it isn't free. You need to purchase the book for around $15 US. The book gives detailed instructions on how to do and use the "universal" code.

The part that is sleazy is that while the "universal" code will work for everything, for $50/session you can work with a coach and get some "custom" codes. These codes only work for about 10 days. For $300 or so you can get the manual, and there are "faster acting" Quantum codes and Quantum + codes that only cost around $130 or so.

What I don't understand is if the universal code works for everything, why is there a need for custom and Q and Q+ codes...

I was thinking about contacting Dr. Johnson and inviting him to share his experience here. I wonder what the charge/post would be...

My wife listened in on a talk that Alex Lloyd was giving. Her initial impression was that all of this is more about money than healing... There are times when she is much quicker at sorting through things than I am.

We have spent some time bashing ALS TDI for not having an open mind when looking at alternative treatments. I want you to know that same complaint doesn't apply to me.

While I don't know how "issues of the heart" apply to ALS, I will invite everyone to take a look at their Heart Issues Finder.

http://www.thehealingcodeinfo.com/heart-isssues-finder.html

This is free, and if you put in a false email, you won't get spammed with all of their "offers."

I tend to be more of the scientist type. The "spiritual" side of ALS is foreign to me, but I won't just discount it without taking a look.

Tom
ichisan
Posted: Sunday, February 19, 2012 10:08:29 PM
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Tom, I happen to believe that the placebo effect is not a fluke. It is probably the result of the brain's ability to express and/or suppress certain genes that code for certain proteins or enzymes. I suspect that most neurodegenerative diseases are due to the erroneous activation or deactivation of specific genes at the wrong time. If we can somehow entice the brain to express/suppress genes at will, we would have found a way to cure most illnesses.

Having said that, do I believe that Alex Lloyd has figured out how to activate/deactivate genes at will? The answer is no because I don't know. All I know is that I don't like the fact that he is asking money for his book, especially since he is quoting the Bible, an essentially free book. However, I would not discount the possibility that changing one's state of mind could have a powerful healing effect on the body.

On another tangent, where are all those people who have supposedly benefited from Dr. Lloyd's secret? Did they sign a non-disclosure agreement with him? Why don't they spill the beans, so to speak? Whatever the secret is, the basic principles cannot be all that complicated, can they? Can't somebody set up a web page or a blog with some of those basic principles so that others may benefit? Inquiring minds and all that.

Louis
SilverFox
Posted: Sunday, February 19, 2012 10:31:59 PM
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Hello Louis,

If you want to explore this, you need to first start with the Heart Issues questionnaire. Once you have a grasp on which issues need work, then you move on to resolving them.

Resolving issues requires recognizing the "broken" picture you have in your heart, then using the universal code you focus on replacing the broken picture with a healthy one.

A christian analogy of this is to construct a short, well worded, prayer and then to repeat it at each stage of the universal code position. You are looking for something in the 30 second range.

The universal code positions include the bridge of the nose, the adams apple, the jaw, and the temple. You are supposed to hold your fingertips, like a number of flashlights, about an inch away from each of the positions and hold the position for 30 seconds. The sequence goes according to how I listed them.

Three cycles seems to be considered one session.

It seems that you focus on one issue with each session.

That is about as far as I got in the book so far. If you have other questions, I will look them up and pass on any information I find.

Tom
Lolo
Posted: Sunday, February 19, 2012 11:16:08 PM

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SilverFox wrote:
You are supposed to hold your fingertips, like a number of flashlights, about an inch away from each of the positions and hold the position for 30 seconds.


Well, that leaves me out.
millstones
Posted: Monday, February 20, 2012 1:30:30 AM

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Lolo,
You may struggle with the adam's apple bit too.

John
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Posted: Monday, February 20, 2012 2:53:07 AM

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Dr.Ben should be encouraged to subject his MND treatment to trial by the 'scientific method'. He should also be stimulated into becoming a regular contributor to the various ALS study groups that occur annually across the face of this planet.
millstones
Posted: Monday, February 20, 2012 5:04:43 AM

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A search on the AMA website which lists814000 doctors in the US produced no results for Ben Johnson of Colorado Springs, Colorado. Does he exist?

John
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Posted: Monday, February 20, 2012 5:37:01 AM

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Here is the Face of Ben.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K4Y5SME2uw

.....but everything on the internet is part of Dreamland.
millstones
Posted: Monday, February 20, 2012 6:42:46 AM

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At 200$ a throw he probably doesn't need doctoring anymore.

John
Ark
Posted: Monday, February 20, 2012 4:16:47 PM
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Maybe military monster discipline is what it takes. Check out El Samyaza protocol:

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1027342/pg1

My first thought after reading it was, this is bull and I wondered how I ended up on that page. But could there be some clues in it? ALS is a monster, so why not? Excessive amounts of aminos? Inosine, Taurine...?

Btw, has anyone tried 714-X?
ichisan
Posted: Monday, February 20, 2012 4:23:41 PM
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SilverFox wrote:
I tend to be more of the scientist type. The "spiritual" side of ALS is foreign to me, but I won't just discount it without taking a look.

Tom
Tom, the whole thing smells like a scam, which is unfortunate in my opinion. Quantum codes? Wow. Could not sound more phony. I say it's unfortunate because I believe that the idea that the brain can directly manipulate the activation/deactivation of genes is scientifically sound. The placebo effect is very strong evidence for it. Maybe there is a simple way to re-program one's mind to accomplish amazing feats of healing.

The problem is that scammers will scare legitimate investigators away from a potentially revolutionary health technology. Believe me when I say that I would love to see the entire conventional health industry crumble into utter oblivion. But, by all means, experiment with Dr. Lloyd's secret codes and let us know what you find.

Louis
SilverFox
Posted: Monday, February 20, 2012 5:03:34 PM
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Hello Lolo,



Lolo wrote:


Well, that leaves me out.




Well, this is where things get even more mysterious...

If your arms or hands don't work, you simply have to "visualize" that they are in position.

Another thing that appears to be a bit off is that you can have someone else do the codes for you. For example, if you uncovered faulty pictures in your heart and shared those issues with me, I could do the codes addressing your issues and you would benefit.

Are we really connected in some quantum way...?

I don't know... This seems really way out there.

Tom
SilverFox
Posted: Monday, February 20, 2012 5:11:52 PM
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Hello John,

Here is Dr. Ben's website.

http://208.112.88.86/meetdrben/Home.aspx

I sent an email to him asking if he would consider sharing his experience with all of you. We will see what happens.

Tom
SilverFox
Posted: Monday, February 20, 2012 5:15:01 PM
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I was also directed to look at the efforts of Dr. Craig Oster. He is not cured, but against all odds is actually able to stand up from his wheel chair.

Perhaps everyone needs to start lifting weights...

Here is his website.

http://healingwithdrcraig.com/the-man/

I watched some very impressive U Tube videos of him.

Tom
millstones
Posted: Monday, February 20, 2012 5:33:28 PM

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Tom,

Thanks for that. We will see what materialises. I am in the don't know crowd but erring towards having faith. Not a practising christian myself but we have many good friends who sre and prayers are said for Irene by individuals and church communities. Maybe they are being answered and maybe a little faith will go a long way.

I am not sure about a guy who claims to have the answers to the world's illnesses and yet wants to charge $200 a time to share them. If he got the claimed results and has had others copy that success why does the pharmaceutical industry still exist.

John
mehmet
Posted: Monday, February 20, 2012 6:15:00 PM
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Hocus-pocus nonsense upon stilts.
sceptic
Posted: Monday, February 20, 2012 6:39:30 PM
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SilverFox wrote:
Hello Lolo,

Well, this is where things get even more mysterious...

If your arms or hands don't work, you simply have to "visualize" that they are in position.

Another thing that appears to be a bit off is that you can have someone else do the codes for you. For example, if you uncovered faulty pictures in your heart and shared those issues with me, I could do the codes addressing your issues and you would benefit.

Are we really connected in some quantum way...?

I don't know... This seems really way out there.

Tom


So all one needs is to "visualize" the fingers in the right position,huh?

Perhaps he can just"visualize" that I have sent him the $200. I can thus get his book by applying his own techniques.

But be sure you visualize them in the right order, lest ye be turned into a newt.
roy
Posted: Monday, February 20, 2012 7:28:59 PM
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Sure hope some newbe does not read this post and run away. You guys gotta be kidding.

roy
SilverFox
Posted: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 3:21:02 PM
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I had the opportunity to have a discussion with the pastor of a church and a psychiatrist. The topic was how emotional road blocks effect health.

I showed them the "heat issues finder," and they were amazed at how complete it was.

I don't know how the link between emotional health and illness works, but there does appear to be a link.

On some level, I am sure everyone has experienced or witnessed this first hand. My suggestion is to take a look at the "heart issues finder" and come to grasp with any "issues" that are uncovered. While the healing code has some mystical element to it and costs money, the heart issues finder appears to be well grounded and it is free.

I can't prove a connection between emotional health and ALS. However, I don't think there is a down side to eliminating any of these "issues."

I haven't heard back from Dr. Ben. If I do, I will pass this information on. This is about as far as I think we can go on this, so check your heart issues, resolve them, and let's move on to the next idea.

Tom
DeeBee
Posted: Friday, February 24, 2012 3:44:32 AM

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SilverFox wrote:
Hello John,

Here is Dr. Ben's website.

http://208.112.88.86/meetdrben/Home.aspx

I sent an email to him asking if he would consider sharing his experience with all of you. We will see what happens.

Tom


Dr.Ben may be interested in contributing to the upcoming Chicago Symposium. He has just enough time to prepare an Abstract. Perhaps 'Therapeutic Strategies' could be his theme?

http://www.mndassociation.org/research/for_researchers/international_symposium/23rd_international_symposium_on_alsmnd/abstract_submissions.html

As an MND survivor his presentation would fascinate and enthrall.

D.





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