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Oral Sodium Chlorite
De Laval
Posted: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:33:50 PM
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Ben.
I let my blood checked every month and nothing has changed and there is no chlorite in the blood.
All values ​​are normal and within the requirements.

Jan
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Posted: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:35:00 PM

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Tom/Ben,
that would tie up with my dosing regime as I see regression after about 6 to 8 days in the off period.
By Tom's half life cycle that would mean practically all the chlorite has been eliminated by then.
I'm on 1.0gm.kl.

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What are those blue remembered hills, what sphires what farms are those.
That is the land of lost content,I see it shining plain,
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HappyPhysicist
Posted: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:39:10 PM
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SilverFox wrote:
Hello Ben,

I will argue that precision has never been a high goal with this experiment...

If you look through what the people have reported on their experiences, they all seem to "coast" for a few days before seeing changes. While we don't have the exact number to work with, we do have the experience of others to serve as a guide.

This is like the blind leading the blind... A much better solution would to have a research group actually run some tests on this, but that doesn't seem to be a possibility at this point.

I really don't know if this approach is valid, but feel the obligation to pass the information on and throw it out for discussion.

When you were participating in the NP001 trial, how long was it before you noticed a decline?

Tom


Tom,

Couldn't agree more. I think the best thing we have to go on is how we 'feel'.

Overall I'd say it was about 4-5 months after starting the study when I began to decline again. But in between cycles I could feel the positive effect wear off after about one week.

Its hard to draw any conclusion form that on the half life of sodium chlorite. If SC is clearing out the naughty macrophages, perhaps it knocks them all out immediately and it takes a week for them to come back.

Thanks,

Ben


If it is done in secret, it is done in vain.
HappyPhysicist
Posted: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:40:15 PM
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De Laval wrote:
Ben.
I let my blood checked every month and nothing has changed and there is no chlorite in the blood.
All values ​​are normal and within the requirements.

Jan


Jan,

I think it is actually very difficult to measure chlorite itself. It require some type of spectroscopy I think.

If it is done in secret, it is done in vain.
De Laval
Posted: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:07:19 AM
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Silverfox.
I have a good think about your advice and decided to drink 45 ml per day divided throughout the day.
A half hour before the meal is the best it has been suggested.
45 ml is a dose of 1.065 mg / kg.

Jan
SilverFox
Posted: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:03:30 AM
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Hello Jan,

My "gut level reaction" is that is a better way to go, but I have nothing to back it up.

Observe carefully and let us know what happens.

Tom
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Posted: Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:59:46 PM
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You should start calling OSC an energy drink, so when you get this all sorted out you could sell it in a dark glass bottle at $5.00 a pop.
roy
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Posted: Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:56:25 PM

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It's anything but a energy drink , Roy. Knocks me on my ass . . And yet I drink. Shows what desperation will do , huh! .don't spill it on your clothes. Might not be bleach, but ittastes like it and ruins clothes. Imagine what its doing to my little pecker when I pee. SHRINKAGE!!
roy
Posted: Thursday, February 23, 2012 3:22:07 PM
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Missed the point, rather I did not make the point. FDA does not care about energy drinks Roy
Olly
Posted: Friday, February 24, 2012 9:59:03 AM

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Something I found on another web site brought it home to me about our OSC trail and I thought it may be relevant:

The road to good health is not an easy one and there are numerous examples of individuals who unfortunately lapse into negative or poor behavior patterns.

We are proposing that when “failure” points are identified there is an fantastic opportunity to remind the user of previous success.

Reminding a user that they have had success in the past may help to limit self-doubt and reductions of self-efficacy.

The psychological burden associated with failing to meet goals could be quickly replaced with a positive a reminder of the user’s mental and physical capability that is based on objective historical information.
Instead of just having an empty “You can do it!” we envision future services that say, “We believe you can do it because, look, you’ve done it before!”

I think this applies to OSC as it has helped where before we had nothing.
If we can do this with a simple chemical and get results in about 50% or more of those taking it, even if the recovery is weak then we are really onto something and further work is required to make it work better.
Now is not the time to say well it works so far then stops and give in to despair but we should look again at all the variables involved.


The variables involved in just taking a simple compound like OSC are very large and any of these should, have an impact on the results:

1. Amount of dosage
2. Time of dosage
3. Amount taken - splits or on one dose
4. Food before and after dosage and time between
5. Anti-oxidants taken or other suppliments (several vairables here)
6. Daily food consumption in calories
7. Daily food types and variations
8. Type of ALS you have i.e. FALS/SALS or other variants bulbar etc
9. Individual genetic make up
10.ALS Progression level - where are you when you start - how far gone
11. Consistancy - how regular are you in taking the same dose , same time and same amount etc.

I could go into finer details but I think you get the idea

Is it any wonder we all report something diferent?

Into the heart, an air that kills, from yon far country blows.
What are those blue remembered hills, what sphires what farms are those.
That is the land of lost content,I see it shining plain,
The happy highways where I went and cannot come again
De Laval
Posted: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:33:28 AM
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Olly.
I was advised to the OSC a 1/2 hour before each meal to take this because during meals the pH in the stomach drops, and the transition in the gut should be larger, because the pH in the intestine is reduced to 6.5 to 7.
According to experts than the inclusion of chlorite in the bloodstream better.

Jan
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Posted: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:24:18 AM
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Hello Jan,

It has been 5 days since you indicated that you were going to reduce the amount you are taking.

Any updates or observations...?

Tom
De Laval
Posted: Monday, February 27, 2012 12:51:14 PM
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Silverfox
an update after 5 days is that I have absolutely no diarrhea so more normal stools.
I usually go to the toilet in the morning and it was with 6x 15 ml = 2.13 mg / kg in divided doses chlorite still gets diarrhea.
According to my idea is that the chlorite is completely absorbed by the intestine.
I take 3 x 15ml per day
Each 15 ml i drink 1/2 hour before each meal.
So a total of 3x 0.355 =1.065 mg / kg chlorite each day.

Jan
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Posted: Monday, February 27, 2012 2:06:53 PM
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Hello Jan,

Thanks.

Any change in your symptoms or ability to function when using the lower amount?

Tom
De Laval
Posted: Monday, February 27, 2012 2:38:24 PM
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Tom.
No chance in my symptoms but stable
Jan
SilverFox
Posted: Monday, February 27, 2012 3:03:07 PM
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Hello Jan,

Excellent news.

Tom
Trader Jimm
Posted: Sunday, March 04, 2012 10:42:30 AM

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Back on OSC. I was waiting for DEX study home nurse to call and take some 4 and 10 hour blood samples. She hasn't called. Maybe a sign that I'm off the study?
millstones
Posted: Sunday, March 04, 2012 11:48:13 AM

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Hi all,

Irene died this morning. I still have alot of faith in Sodium Chlorite which I feel gave her a far better quality of life for the last 4 months. Unfortunately I think the discovery for her came too late.

Good luck to the continuing triallists.

John
Persevering
Posted: Sunday, March 04, 2012 11:58:13 AM

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John-

So sorry to hear of Irene's passing.

per·se·vere [pur-suh-veer] - to persist in anything undertaken; maintain a purpose in spite of difficulty, obstacles, or discouragement; continue steadfastly.
DeeBee
Posted: Sunday, March 04, 2012 12:10:23 PM

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Hello John

I am shocked and saddened to hear about Irene. Let's hope that all the various experiments going on across the globe will achieve good things in the near future.

Best wishes

DeeBee



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