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The New Dynavox Vmax + with EyeMax ... definetly a lemon.
Bernard1
Posted: Monday, February 20, 2012 6:55:47 PM
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To the President of Dynavox,

Around December 7th 2011, we received a brand new Dynavox VMax+ with EyeMax # EM005074
for my wife Charlotte, who has been battling ALS for 8 years, on a vent, completely paralyzed but for her face and eyes.

We met with Mr. Tim Dreaden at the speech therapist’s office for an evaluation, during this evaluation Mr. Dreaden clearly confirmed that my wife would gain access to the internet, email…etc.

Jenny Dumas the speech therapist at UCP (Birmingham Al) who wrote the evaluation will testify to this fact.

Looking at your current brochure, I read; “Powerfully FAST… Fully ACCESSIBLE…the TOTAL package.” The same web brochure claims; “…have the option to use the phone and web…With my high-performance Vmax+…”

Jim Shea, Vice President of Marketing for DynaVox. “Our focus is on providing total communication solutions which allow people with ALS to speak, send email, access the internet,make phone calls and use a computer through the use of assistive technology.

I am very sorry to report that the unit we received with the Windows 7 operating system falls very very short from these performance claims!

Shortly after we received the unit, it started to freeze, so Charlotte could not communicate her needs reliably…nothing had been done to the unit,
the internet access was not even turned on….


I started to look into it, wondering why a brand new unit was already freezing and unreliable, and was amazed to find out that this unit had only 1Gram of memory with Windows 7…

Windows 7 specifications call for a minimum of 1G RAM to perform… Cheap computers today ($300-$400) have 2-4G RAM…

I asked if the RAM could be increased, and was told that no it could not on this brand new unit… A unit we are supposed to keep for the next 5 years…

On 1/23/2012, I turned on the internet feature and immediately installed the Anti-Virus software we use on our other computers (F-secure) to protect this computer from internet viruses. The performance worsened dramatically.

I called your Tech support and complained of very poor performance. Your Tech rep told me that the performance degradation was caused by the fact that the anti-virus software I installed was in constant operation therefore used computer resources which caused the serious performance degradation.

He uninstalled the anti-virus software and reinstalled Microsoft Essential.

During our conversation, he confirmed that “The hardware is pretty outdated”… (his words) NO KIDDING!

The performance still far from your marketing department claims, I clearly told PJ (tech support) that the unit was not performing as advertised
and that I want to return it.

Her supervisor Jim Kaufman called me last Friday, and clearly told me that this unit was strictly a communication device and not one to go on the web… He was quite clear, mentioning that it was not to go on Facebook… that is was not to be compared to a notebook. (a direct conflict with Mr. Shea’s your VP of Marketing Dept. statement)

That same day, Ian of tech support called me and remotely accessed the computer to see if anything was wrong with the unit. He took out 3 files, and installed Malwarebyte, scanned the computer and found no malware/spyware which could have caused the poor performance.

Even after Ian’s intervention the computer is unreliable, will not awaken, and freezes.

I told Jim that I wanted to return the unit. He told me that it was not possible as the 30 day window passed…

Dynavox owes the truth to ALS patients… before anyone buys this unit, it should be CLEARLY DISCLAIMED that this unit is only a basic communication device, NOT designed to go on the web or act as a computer.

Claims of “Powerfully Fast, fully ACCESSIBLE, the TOTAL package” are GROSSLY EXAGERATED and misleading.

Your own Tech Support department admits it!

The big problem is that Medicare and my insurance company paid about $17,000 for this unit which is supposed to last us 5 years.

Selling such outdated hardware to ALS patients is a very very cruel joke.

Your marketing is clearly false advertising!

I formally request that you void this purchase with Medicare and our insurance company
and will invite your rep to pick up this most disappointing and defective unit.

An EXTREMELY disappointed customer.


Bernard R Michaud
Husband and POA of Charlotte Carlisle (pals)
Bernard1
Posted: Monday, February 20, 2012 7:01:57 PM
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Dynavox Refuses to do right!


Dear Mr. Michaud,

Please be advised that I am in receipt of your request for a full refund of your DynaVox Vmax+ High Performance & EyeMax Speech Communication System. I understand from our field sales team and technical support group that you are dissatisfied with your selected product.

After reading your email communications, I understand that you had some performance issues with your device and requested support from our technical support group. In my discussions with the group manager, I was made aware that we performed remote diagnostic tests and configuration adjustments on your speech communication device and deemed it to be in proper working order.

Also from your communications, you indicated your dissatisfaction with the standard RAM memory of your Vmax/Eyemax communication system. The 1GB RAM memory is our published specification and is fully documented on our website, brochures and other advertising media and meets the Microsoft Windows 7 requirement. As we claim, your communication device does support email, internet and peripheral device accessibility with Bluetooth and IR capability. As you are aware, our return and refund policy expires 30 days from date of purchase and unfortunately your request for a return is now beyond the unconditional return period. We will not be able to process your request for return and full refund.

DynaVox will continue to work diligently within our capabilities to support you and your wife’s speech communication needs through our technical support group and/or our field sales team.

If you any further questions please feel free to contact me directly.

Regards,

Gentry Hughes


Gentry Hughes
Vice President, North America Sales
DynaVox and Mayer-Johnson
2100 Wharton Street, Suite 400
Pittsburgh, PA 15203
O - 412.209.6546
C - 502.301.0230
(800) 344-1778 ext 56546
RL Schafferr
Posted: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:31:02 AM

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Gett ahold of your local tv station and see how quick u get refunded. Your story will piss off the world.
RobGoldstein
Posted: Thursday, February 23, 2012 9:13:28 AM

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Bernard,
I am sorry to hear that Charlotte and you experienced difficulties (understatement) with the device. Have others on the forum experienced the same thing? I believe that Dynavox is a popular item sought by folks with ALS and other disorders, so I'm hopeful that others on here with experience using the device can share similar stories but more importantly potential solutions or alternatives.
-Rob
Persevering
Posted: Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:47:28 AM

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Not many Dynavox supporters. See more active parallel thread here: http://www.patientslikeme.com/forum/als/topics/105799

per·se·vere [pur-suh-veer] - to persist in anything undertaken; maintain a purpose in spite of difficulty, obstacles, or discouragement; continue steadfastly.
Trader Jimm
Posted: Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:52:31 PM

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I have DynaVox VMAX+. I don't have the eye-gaze addon yet. I work with computers, just built a sweet box with an AMD hex-CPU,3.2MHz for crunching. But back to the DynaVOX, is is old technology, but built so solid it is almost idestructible. I comes with 1 Gig memory. It'll take more memory, but opening the case will void my warrantee. Skimp on memory for a $18,000 box?

My box has dual atom processors,and runs windows 7. It has bluetooth capability, but cannot talk to my stupid phone, which supports bluetooth. All in all, I prefer the IPAD with proloquo2go while I can use my hands, but the IPAD dosn't support eyegaze technology.
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